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Colors of Kanji on the belt
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| Markaso |
Posted on 11-12-2009 15:23
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It seems to me that I remember that some people had different colored Kanji on their black belt long ago. I remember, or at least I think I remember that silver was for a junior black belt and gold was for an adult level black belt. I have three students who just passed their Go Jyu Kai shodan and they asked me what color of writing they could order their belts in. I asked my Sensei and he said any color was fine. I have the standard goldish yellow as that is what I came up with as I was training.
First are there any differences in color of the lettering that anyone knows of in the Go Jyu Kai? Second, are there any differences in level in your styles for the lettering on your belts? |
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| gojuryu |
Posted on 11-12-2009 15:25
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Which Gojukai are you speaking of? |
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| Markaso |
Posted on 11-12-2009 21:18
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gojuryu wrote:
Which Gojukai are you speaking of?
I am not familiar with all the different Go Jyu Kai. What is written on my belt is Zen Nihon Karate Dou Ren Mei. This is really the only Go Jyu Kai that I know of actually. I do know that there are different Go Jyu Ryu families as well as associations but I was under the impression that there was really only one Go Jyu Kai. |
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| lwalker |
Posted on 28-01-2010 11:37
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There is only one Goju Kai. As for the color of the kanji on the belt is, as your Sensei said, any color. |
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| gojuryu |
Posted on 31-01-2010 21:58
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Markaso: There are three Goju Kai Associations. Clarification - there are three associations that use the term Goju Kai in the over all name of their respective associations;
- JKF Gojyukai - Nihon Karatedo Renmei Gojyu Kai [Japan Karatedo Federation Goju Kai]; A division of the Japan Karatedo Federation.
- JKGA - Zen Nihon Gojyu Kai [All Japan Karatedo Gojyu Kai] a member of the JKF Gojyu Kai; That of Goshi Yamaguchi.
- IKGA - International Karatedo Goju Kai, not a member of the JKF Gojyu Kai; That of Goshi Yamaguchi.
- Goju Kai USA - That of Gosei Yamaguchi in the United States.
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| Markaso |
Posted on 25-02-2010 07:21
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gojuryu wrote:
Markaso: There are three Goju Kai Associations. Clarification - there are three associations that use the term Goju Kai in the over all name of their respective associations;
JKF Gojyukai - Nihon Karatedo Renmei Gojyu Kai [Japan Karatedo Federation Goju Kai]; A division of the Japan Karatedo Federation.
JKGA - Zen Nihon Gojyu Kai [All Japan Karatedo Gojyu Kai] a member of the JKF Gojyu Kai; That of Goshi Yamaguchi.
IKGA - International Karatedo Goju Kai, no a member of the JKF Gojyu Kai; That of Goshi Yamaguchi.
Goju Kai USA - That of Gosei Yamaguchi in the United States.
Thank you.
I knew of the JKF .... As I am a member. The others .....well ... didn't . I may be mistaken but isn't there a "Zen" in front of the Nihon Karatedo Renmei Go Jyu Kai? |
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| jaz |
Posted on 27-02-2010 18:23
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the belt I was presented with had no colour except black. That being said, I have seen gold kanji on others in our dojo. |
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| gojuryu |
Posted on 02-03-2010 12:04
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Markaso wrote:
gojuryu wrote:
Markaso: There are three Goju Kai Associations. Clarification - there are three associations that use the term Goju Kai in the over all name of their respective associations;
JKF Gojyukai - Nihon Karatedo Renmei Gojyu Kai [Japan Karatedo Federation Goju Kai]; A division of the Japan Karatedo Federation.
JKGA - Zen Nihon Gojyu Kai [All Japan Karatedo Gojyu Kai] a member of the JKF Gojyu Kai; That of Goshi Yamaguchi.
IKGA - International Karatedo Goju Kai, no a member of the JKF Gojyu Kai; That of Goshi Yamaguchi.
Goju Kai USA - That of Gosei Yamaguchi in the United States.
Thank you.
I knew of the JKF .... As I am a member. The others .....well ... didn't . I may be mistaken but isn't there a "Zen" in front of the Nihon Karatedo Renmei Go Jyu Kai?
I suppose it depends on who you are talking to. I leave "zen" out in conversation with most Westerners that may misinterpret the differences of JKGA and JKF Gojukai and inject the political side of conversation. As an example - so many people believe Gojukai is a style different than Gojuryu; when I clarify that Gojukai is merely the name of an association that practices Gojuryu - there is often a very heated debate [once having led to a push and shove!].
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| Markaso |
Posted on 05-03-2010 09:45
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gojuryu wrote:
Markaso wrote:
gojuryu wrote:
Markaso: There are three Goju Kai Associations. Clarification - there are three associations that use the term Goju Kai in the over all name of their respective associations;
JKF Gojyukai - Nihon Karatedo Renmei Gojyu Kai [Japan Karatedo Federation Goju Kai]; A division of the Japan Karatedo Federation.
JKGA - Zen Nihon Gojyu Kai [All Japan Karatedo Gojyu Kai] a member of the JKF Gojyu Kai; That of Goshi Yamaguchi.
IKGA - International Karatedo Goju Kai, no a member of the JKF Gojyu Kai; That of Goshi Yamaguchi.
Goju Kai USA - That of Gosei Yamaguchi in the United States.
Thank you.
I knew of the JKF .... As I am a member. The others .....well ... didn't . I may be mistaken but isn't there a "Zen" in front of the Nihon Karatedo Renmei Go Jyu Kai?
I suppose it depends on who you are talking to. I leave "en" out in conversation with most Westerners that may misinterpret the differences of JKGA and JKF Gojukai and inject the political side of conversation. As an example - so many people believe Gojukai is a style different than Gojuryu; when I clarify that Gojukai is merely the name of an association that practices Gojuryu - there is often a very heated debate [once having led to a push and shove!].
The GoJyuKai that I belong to, only practices GoJyu Ryu. The Zen kuren karate Dou Renmei, from what have seen and heard, is an umbrella group for a few styles of Karate. Both associations are very popular in the Kyushyu region. One of the styles that it encompasses is Go Jyu Ryu. The others that I remember are Shitou ryu, Wado Ryu, Shyoto Kan, and a few others. That's why I was wondering if you had left out the "Zen" in the one. |
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| gojuryu |
Posted on 10-03-2010 10:37
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Markaso wrote:The GoJyuKai that I belong to, only practices GoJyu Ryu. The Zen kuren karate Dou Renmei, from what have seen and heard, is an umbrella group for a few styles of Karate. Both associations are very popular in the Kyushyu region. One of the styles that it encompasses is Go Jyu Ryu. The others that I remember are Shitou ryu, Wado Ryu, Shyoto Kan, and a few others. That's why I was wondering if you had left out the "Zen" in the one.
Hisanaga Yoshihiro Sensei no Kyushu ? |
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| K-Eibukan190 |
Posted on 10-03-2010 10:58
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Just a clarification between Zen Karate Do Renmei Goju-kai and Zen Koku Karate Do Remei
JKF - Zen Karate Do Renmei Goju-Kai
(Zen meaning in "all"
Zen= All
Ku=Short for Koku=National=Country
Karatedo=no translation needed
Ren=Short for Renmei=Association
This one confuses a lot of people... but I hope no on on here thinks that the "ZEN" on these organizations are related to budhisst "ZEN" practices. Just checking.
Yes... both JKF and Zenkuren are both popular in Kyushu. Our shihan (Hisanaga Yoshihiro) promotes both within his students and organizations he contributes to. I myself have rank with both JKF and Zenkuren.
Markaso... who do you practice and where in the Kyushu region. Do you ever get a chance to get to the Kagoshima City area? |
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| Markaso |
Posted on 11-03-2010 08:29
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K-Eibukan190 wrote:
Just a clarification between Zen Karate Do Renmei Goju-kai and Zen Koku Karate Do Remei
JKF - Zen Karate Do Renmei Goju-Kai
(Zen meaning in "all"
Zen= All
Ku=Short for Koku=National=Country
Karatedo=no translation needed
Ren=Short for Renmei=Association
This one confuses a lot of people... but I hope no on on here thinks that the "ZEN" on these organizations are related to budhisst "ZEN" practices. Just checking.
Yes... both JKF and Zenkuren are both popular in Kyushu. Our shihan (Hisanaga Yoshihiro) promotes both within his students and organizations he contributes to. I myself have rank with both JKF and Zenkuren.
Markaso... who do you practice and where in the Kyushu region. Do you ever get a chance to get to the Kagoshima City area?
First, Please call me Mark
Second, I am still practicing in the Kyushyu area. I belong to a Dojo that is in Oita-Ken Oita -Shi. My Sensei is Sato Shihan. I have tested in Kagoshima and have gone to a few seminars in the area. There were so many sensei there a I am not really sure who I met.
For me I know that the Zen is for all and when it is put with the koku it means All Japan. And the The other is the all Japan association. No confusion on that part at all. I am only ranked with the Go Jyu Kai. Not really interested in belonging to too many associations .... started in Go Jyu Kai ..... will stay that way unless my Sensei says I should go for the other. The Dojo that I belonged to in Kyoto was Go Jyu Kai only. In Kyushyu ...it is a member of both. |
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